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- Title: 2512.11807
- ArXiv ID: 2512.11807
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- Authors: ** Evan Redden (ORCID: 0009‑0008‑6389‑1871) – Western Governors University — **
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Recent work by Faizal et al. (2025) claims that Gödelian undecidability of nonalgorithmic truths in our universe imply the impossibility of a formal, algorithmic simulation of the universe. This paper clarifies the distinction between epistemic incompleteness: limits on what can be proven within a formal system, and ontological incompleteness: limits on what can exist or be computed by that system. Using Conway's Game of Life as a Turing-complete example, I demonstrate that undecidability constrains provability but not computability or execution. Unless physical phenomena require the resolution of undecidable propositions, incompleteness alone does not imply a guaranteed failure in execution. Thus, the claim that the universe cannot be simulated lacks empirical and logical justification without evidence of hypercomputation in nature.
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Provability vs. Execution: A Comment on
“Consequences of Undecidability in Physics on the
Theory of Everything”
Evan Redden
ORCID: 0009-0008-6389-1871
Western Governors University
eredde5@wgu.edu
Abstract
Recent work by Faizal et al. (2025) claims that Gödelian undecidability of non-
algorithmic truths in our universe imply the impossibility of a formal, algorithmic
simulation of the universe. This paper clarifies the distinction between epistemic
incompleteness: limits on what can be proven within a formal system, and onto-
logical incompleteness: limits on what can exist or be computed by that system.
Using Conway’s Game of Life as a Turing-complete example, I demonstrate that
undecidability constrains provability but not computability or execution. Unless
physical phenomena require the resolution of undecidable propositions, incomplete-
ness alone does not imply a guaranteed failure in execution. Thus, the claim that
the universe cannot be simulated lacks empirical and logical justification without
evidence of hypercomputation in nature.
1
Introduction and Background
The pursuit of a unified, formal description of the universe has long motivated the development of
both physical and computational theories of reality. Recent arguments have applied results from
mathematical logic: specifically Gödel’s incompleteness theorems [6], Tarski’s undefinability theorem
[7], and Chaitin’s information-theoretic limits [1] to suggest that any formal, algorithmic description
of the universe must be inherently incomplete. Faizal et al. (2025) extrapolate this reasoning further,
concluding that such incompleteness implies the impossibility of a formal simulation of the universe
itself [4].
This paper challenges that conclusion by distinguishing between two fundamentally different lim-
itations: epistemic incompleteness, which concerns what can be known or proven within a formal
system, and ontological incompleteness, which concerns what can physically exist or be computed by
that system. Although Faizal’s results constrain the former, they do not necessarily impose limits
on the latter. The distinction is critical: an incomplete theory may still describe a complete and
executable physical process.
2
Review and Conceptual Clarification
Faizal et al. construct a formal language, LQG, corresponding to a formal system FQG that expresses
statements about a prospective theory of quantum gravity. They correctly note that any sufficiently
expressive formal system is incomplete: there exist true statements within LQG that cannot be proven
within FQG itself. From this, they infer that a computational model of the universe based on FQG
cannot reproduce all physical truths, since some truths are undecidable within the system [4].
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However, this reasoning conflates what can be proven within a formal theory with what can be
executed by an algorithmic process. A formal system may be unable to prove all statements about
its own behavior, yet the rules that generate that behavior can still be mechanically applied without
contradiction. The process of computation does not require the system to resolve its own undecidable
propositions in order to proceed to its next state.
An illustration of this is Conway’s Game of Life: a cellular automaton defined by a small set of
deterministic rules [5]. Despite being governed by a finite algorithm, the Game of Life exhibits
Turing-complete behavior, meaning that undecidable questions (e.g., whether a configuration will
ever stabilize) arise within it. These undecidable truths do not prevent the system from evolving; they
merely restrict what an observer can predict or prove about its evolution.
3
Hypercomputation and Ontological Limits
To argue that our universe cannot be simulated algorithmically, one must demonstrate that physical
processes require computational resources beyond those available to a Turing machine [8]. In other
words, the dynamics of the universe must depend on the resolution of an undecidable problem in
order to advance from one state to another. This would entail the existence of hypercomputation in
nature: physical processes capable of computing non-Turing functions or solving the Halting Problem
[2].
Although several theoretical constructs have been proposed as candidates for hypercomputational
systems, none have been shown to be physically realizable due to the Church-Turing thesis. Without
empirical evidence of such mechanisms, the claim that undecidability forbids simulation remains
speculative [3]. In the absence of hypercomputation, the undecidable propositions arising from formal
descriptions of physical law reflect epistemic limits of knowledge, not ontological limits on what the
universe can compute or produce.
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Discussion and Conclusion
The application of Gödelian results to physics must be interpreted with care. These theorems delineate
the boundaries of formal reasoning, not of physical causation. A consistent algori
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